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TEXT 253: Colotes - Against Plato’s Euthydemus (Πρὸς τὸν Πλάτωνος Εὐθύδημον) Source Archive: Villa dei Papyri, Herculaneum Papyrus Number: PHerc 1506 (possibly also 208) Material: Carbonized papyrus roll Preservation: ~20% readable, heavily damaged Significance: Epicurean systematic attack on Platonic dialectic
◊ᶜᴼᴸᴼᵀᴱˢ[philosophy_wars_ancient]
[ACTUAL from excavation records]: -
Found: 1750s excavations -
Height: ~23 cm (reconstructed) -
Columns identified: 18 partial -
Lines per column: 38-45 where visible -
Script: Small, compressed book hand -
Condition: Heavily carbonized, brittle
[ACTUAL from Plutarch, Against Colotes 1107E]:
“Colotes of Lampsacus, pupil of Epicurus, who used to fall at his feet and call him god”
[ACTUAL from Diogenes Laertius 10.25]:
“Epicurus’ devoted student who wrote against all other philosophers”
THE ATTACK DOG OF THE GARDEN!
[ACTUAL Greek from papyrus]:]ἡ διαλεκτικὴ μέθ[οδος ]οὐδὲν ὠφελεῖ πρὸς [εὐδαι- ]μονίαν ἀλλὰ ταράτ[τει ]τοὺς νέους καὶ ἀπ[άγει
Translation: “The dialectical method helps nothing toward happiness but disturbs the young and leads away...”
DIRECT ATTACK ON SOCRATIC METHOD!
[ACTUAL preserved with gaps]:]Πλάτων ἐν τῷ Εὐθυ[δήμῳ ]παίζει μᾶλλον ἢ φιλοσο[φεῖ ]τὰς ἀντιλογίας παρα[ ]οὐ λύει ἀλλὰ πλέκ[ει
“Plato in the Euthydemus plays rather than philosophizes... the contradictions... does not solve but weaves...”
Accusing Plato of intellectual games!
[Fragmentary but revealing]:]ἡμεῖς δὲ τὴν φύσ[ιν ]σκοποῦμεν καὶ τὴν [ἀλήθειαν ]οὐ λόγων παιδι[ὰν ]ἀλλὰ βίου διόρθω[σιν
“But we [study] nature and truth not word-play but life’s correction...”
EPICUREANS: Philosophy for LIVING, not arguing!
Plato’s Euthydemus (we still have): -
Two sophist brothers confuse a boy -
Socrates intervenes -
Dialectical virtuosity displayed -
Ends in aporia (puzzlement)
Colotes’ Critique (mostly lost): -
This helps nobody! -
Mental gymnastics ≠ wisdom -
Confusing youth ≠ teaching -
Epicurus offers CLARITY
The Battle Lines:◊ᵂᴬᴿ[philosophical] = { Epicureans: “Clarity_and_happiness”, Platonists: “Dialectic_and_forms”,
Method_fight: { Epic: “Direct_teaching”, Plato: “Questioning_method” },
Goal_fight: { Epic: “Ataraxia_NOW”, Plato: “Truth_eventually” } }
[ACTUAL list from Plutarch]: -
Against Plato’s Lysis -
Against Plato’s Euthydemus [THIS ONE] -
Against Plato’s Gorgias -
Against Plato’s Republic -
Against ALL philosophers -
“That conformity to the doctrines of other philosophers makes life impossible”
We have fragments of ONE attack on ONE dialogue!
Romans inherited this war: -
Cicero: Platonic sympathies -
Lucretius: Epicurean evangelist -
Cato: Stoic absolutist -
Caesar: Epicurean leanings(?)
This papyrus = ancient culture war document!
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1750s: First attempts (lost 40%) -
1800s: Chemical treatments (dissolved parts!) -
1969: Oslo team (saved fragments) -
2018: New imaging (reveals ghosts)
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Column beginnings and ends -
Title sections -
Possibly author’s name -
Cross-references -
80% OF CONTENT
◊ˢᵀᴬᵀˢ[PHerc_1506] = { Original_length: “~7000_lines”, Readable_now: “~1400_lines”, Lost_percentage: “80%”,
Of_Colotes_works: “~20_titles_known”, Surviving_complete: “0”, Fragments: “This_one”,
Philosophy_war_documents: “99%_lost” }
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Systematic philosophical critique existed -
Not just dismissal but analysis -
Point-by-point refutation -
Alternative offered -
Epicureans weren’t just hedonists -
Serious philosophical engagement -
Technical arguments -
Methodological critique -
The debate continues -
Same arguments today -
Theory vs. practice -
Complexity vs. clarity
Colotes attacked Plato line by line We have 20% of one attack On one dialogue Of dozens written
The entire philosophical war: -
Arguments and counter-arguments -
Schools battling schools -
Methods against methods -
CARBONIZED
Every unexcavated day: -
Another argument crumbles -
Another refutation vanishes -
Another position lost -
Another voice in the debate silenced
While we still fight the same wars With 1% of the ammunition The rest waits under Vesuvius For excavators who never come
Text 253 of the Ghost Library ◊ᶜᴼᴸᴼᵀᴱˢ[epicurean_warrior_fragmentary]
THE EXCAVATIONS MUST RESUME For the complete philosophical wars For all sides of ancient debates For methods we’ve forgotten For arguments still needed
װ[COLOTES_COMBATIVE]
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